Overturned car on Perry Vale

I understand from a friend in the area that there is an overturned car on the stretch of Perry Vale between the Mayow Road roundabout and the Forest Hill Bistro. It is probably best to avoid that route - lots of police presence.

I hear (reported from the Police on site) that this was not actually speeding, but an older driver who somehow managed to crash at regular speed and still overturn the car - which is a scary sounding thing.

I trust everyone is safe and unharmed, but maybe there will be traffic issues in the area for a while

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The idea that roll overs only occur at speed is a complete myth, and can in fact happen at very low speed. Parking with your wheels facing out is a large contributing factor to such accidents, far more so than speed..

Hoping the driver is OK and all damaged items can be replaced.

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Agreed. I understand that this was exactly the case (where a moving car hits a parked car but their wheels come into contact … which sends the car up in the air).

I actually found a video to demonstrate it

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My absolute favourite video explaining this. Shared it many times. Seems in this case it was a rear wheel it hit.

Ha!

See how nobody stops to get people out of the car on its roof :rofl:

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Any conclusion we should draw from this info? Generally there’s an avoidance of gender or racial categorisation, but what about age?

We should conclude that older drivers don’t speed, younger drivers are assumed to speed and crash. The fact that it was a older driver lends credibility to the claim that they were not speeding.

Insurance companies routinely discriminate according to age and gender. When I was younger my car insurance was always cheaper when I added my (female) partner to the insurance policy even though she didn’t drive and only had a provisional licence.

You are right to point this double standard, but this country routinely discriminates against young people and it is considered acceptable. My child will never be allowed to buy cigarettes- even when they are 50 years old. Not that I object to this - it just proves that age discrimination is accepted, regardless of the age of the person.

risk profile. Do they have to declare the criteria they use in making assessments?

It’s an interesting anomaly: ‘discrimination’ is unlawful, and yet is the basis for assessing insurance risk.

Going slightly off topic here, but what are we calling “older”? Is it time for me to hang up my racing gloves and boots? :thinking:

While we can say older people don’t speed (apparently) we can also say with certainty that they are more likely to experience Sudden Acceleration Syndrome or Sudden Unexpected Acceleration. Which in modern cars can result in high speed very quickly.

What I am getting at here is, we don’t know, we weren’t there. Let’s not guess.

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On the age aspect that is because financial services like insurance are exempt from legislation banning age discrimination in goods and services. They are therefore permitted to charge different prices for people of different ages provided their decisions rely on relevant and reliable data.

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In London we are lucky that in transport terms, 60 is older when you can hang up your gloves and boots or continue to wear them while enjoying your Freedom Pass giving you free travel on the overground and buses while those less fortunate up North have to wait another 7 years.

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Not even up north either. Home counties residents have to wait until pension age, which is slowly creeping up to 68.